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    Recessed & Surface Y/N says Host <not associated>

    Just out of curiosity I am wondering if someone could help explain to me what's happening here:

    I've started building some Face Based families that would have a Y/N Instance parameter labeled "Recessed". Then I use a simple Conditional Statement to drive a cut void into the Face of the host object to show as recessed, ie cutting a wall. Or toggle N to show as Surface mounted. The idea, one family to indicate an either/or condition when that's the only difference.

    I found when doing this the family loses its host when it become surfaced mounted (because the void is no longer cutting the face?). But when they are two separate families with the cutting void removed, then the Type Selector can be used to switch them out, which means more families to create and manage... not the end of the world but...just wondering...


    Recessed Surface - kirk.cox's library

    FB-Instance.rfa (has the Y/N toggle & cutting void)

    FB-Instance-Recessed.rfa (has the Y/N toggle forced to Yes & the cutting void)

    FB-Instance-Surface.rfa (has the Y/N toggle forced to No & the cutting void removed)

    Anybody else experience this?
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    I'm on my phone so I can't look at the attachments, but you CAN do it in one family without losing the host. Mine are done that way. Remind me and I'll send one tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    I'm on my phone so I can't look at the attachments, but you CAN do it in one family without losing the host. Mine are done that way. Remind me and I'll send one tomorrow.
    Thanks Aaron. I'll hit you up tomorrow. I'm interested in knowing what I'm doing wrong here ...

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    It might be where the origin of the family is. Is the void cutting away the face where the Origin is, making it so there is no "face" there anymore?

    I'm guessing, of course. Talk tomorrow.

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    Yeppppp, so im completely wrong. Ours does the exact same thing as yours, and somehow we just havent noticed it. Whats odd, is it isnt the act of SWITCHING it that does it. Placing the "Surface mounted" TYPE on the wall also sets it to <not associated> which is odd, since you can obviously buidl a family thats face based that sits on the surface. Having the variable in there, with the void that moves on and off the wall, appears to "mess with something."

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    My fix for situations like this is to turn the void into a 1/32" cube so that it still cuts the surface but is (should) be hidden by the line thickness of the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew K View Post
    My fix for situations like this is to turn the void into a 1/32" cube so that it still cuts the surface but is (should) be hidden by the line thickness of the wall.
    Yeah, I considered that, too. I'm thinking, what's the lesser of two evils? ... Hmmm

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    Try using a parameter that moves the void away from the face when you want 0. I didn't try it on a FB but i used to have columns set up for whole, half, and corner and we used a void that would move away from the column based on what type you wanted. This gets around the something can't be 0 problem.

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    That's how ours/yours are, Scott. The void moving seems to cause the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    That's how ours/yours are, Scott. The void moving seems to cause the issue.
    Sorry for the Thread Necromancy, but did you ever work out a work-around for this by any chance?

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