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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Roffe View Post
    My original drafting classes were based off ANSI guidelines, so I still don't use typically use I and O in documents (Alphanumeric lists are fine, gridlines not so much). And I have seen (and fallen prey to) confusion over I and O, not leading to coordination issues, but still needing more than a passing thought to understand what was on the page. A well-chosen font (and not photocopying photocopies) can mitigate this.

    Not a made up problem, but one that often seems to get blown out of proportion.
    I agree. The National CAD Standard also prohibits use of the letters I and O for grid designators. "To eliminate confusion with the numerals 0 (zero) and 1 (one), do not use letters O or I."

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    The "National BAD Standard" shouldnt even really be referenced as anything remotely close to a logical standard. I just had to write an email a few nights ago, about how its the least common denominator of crappy standards, written.

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    I and O are a bit like paperspace in the bad old days. It still causes hair pulling screaming fits from enough people to make it not worth the hassle. There are other, more fun ways to cause people to lose their minds now. Roofs as roads for instance.

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    I still write zero and seven with the "slashes"... (see image) ... probably should put the tick at the top of the one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    The "National BAD Standard" shouldnt even really be referenced as anything remotely close to a logical standard. I just had to write an email a few nights ago, about how its the least common denominator of crappy standards, written.
    Precisely why I don't use that as justification. But when it comes down to it, there's nothing wrong about not using I and O. And there are much worse things you can do to a drawing to make it confusing and difficult to understand.

    Out of curiosity Aaron, if you had to pick an established standard to comply with, which would it be?

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    If i had to pick a standard to enforce and comply with, why wouldnt i use my own?

    What says the correct standard to *use* is one that was already written by a group-think bunch of people who are incentivized to see things done a certain way?

    My disdain for the NCS isnt because its a predefined standard that someone else wrote, its because its a ****** standard on the whole. Then there is that... horrid set of **** coming out of the UK, that im not even going to address, lol.

    FWIW, i wouldnt die on the hill of the I and O thing, either. I dont care if people use them, but its no skin off my back if they DONT use them, either. Certainly not an important issue, in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    I still write zero and seven with the "slashes"... (see image) ... probably should put the tick at the top of the one
    I still add a slash through my Z's

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    I do not use the I and O as grid numbers. But, that hasn't stopped others I work with from doing so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool
    ...Certainly not an important issue, in my mind...
    Indeed, I imagine a contractor might wonder, "Is that grid 0 or O? for about a second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    Indeed, I imagine a contractor might wonder, "Is that grid 0 or O? for about a second?
    I know some that would send in an RFI and feign confusion until they could find a way to issue a change order

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