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    Staircase treads on floor plans and ceiling plans.

    Hi,

    Please see images below. I am having problem getting the staircase treads or steps to be visible like I have on my floor plan view. But on my ceiling plans they don't show. No matter how much I play around with the view range and view template. Would be nice if I can get them to all look the same.

    Has it something to do with looking at the stairs from underneath instead of from above? not sure.

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    Try setting the Transparency of the stairs to 100% -- highlight, right click, override graphics in view.

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    You can use a plan region with the view range settings for the level below see pic. You are not going to get a cut mark though.
    With monolithic stair, make it transparent and override projection lines with dashed lines. You can create a filter for that and save it to your template.
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    Thanks for the reply, but it still won't work. I think it's still treating the plan region as a ceiling plan, because I can't set my view depth below my top clip plane. I really don't get this. Plan view is fine, but ceiling plan just will not show stair treads.

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    BIM Warrior,

    Stair treads don't show in ceiling plans in revit.

    This is why posters are suggesting workarounds if you want to see stair treads in your ceiling plans.

    Kamran

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    Last edited by cellophane; July 2nd, 2015 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIM Warrior View Post
    Thanks for the reply, but it still won't work. I think it's still treating the plan region as a ceiling plan, because I can't set my view depth below my top clip plane. I really don't get this. Plan view is fine, but ceiling plan just will not show stair treads.
    If youre in RCP, plan region is RCP as well. The idea is to associate plan regions primary range with the level below the stair, so when youre on level 0, you look up and see the stair from below. The view depth, must pass the bottom of the stair when you look up unlimited view will do the job.
    Can you upload your stair? What revit version are you using?

    p.s. Kamran is right. This is a workaround, I think stairs do not belong to RCP.
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    There is another workaround for this problem. Create a 'Detail View' plan callout, then make it look upwards instead of downwards. This will show a true 3D representation of the stairs (including riser lines if it is not monolithic). It has its own problems - you'll need to create a masking region cut mark and control the graphics but at least you can see the actual model.
    Refer to my blog posting on how to do this:
    RevitCat: True 3D RCP View of a Stair in Revit

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    The transparency to 100% is working Perfectly. only issue is the dotted line is not appearing
    Thanks Cliff B. Collins
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    Quote Originally Posted by PijPiwo View Post
    If you’re in RCP, plan region is RCP as well. The idea is to associate plan region’s primary range with the level below the stair, so when you’re on level 0, you look up and see the stair from below. The view depth, must pass the bottom of the stair when you look up – unlimited view will do the job.
    Can you upload your stair? What revit version are you using?

    p.s. Kamran is right. This is a workaround, I think stairs do not belong to RCP.

    If stairs don't belong in reflected ceiling plans, then is there some other way to show the walls below floor framing? I work in the structural engineering world, and we're always concerned with the bearing walls below, that our floor framing is using for support. So therefore we want to see the walls below and any door or window openings in them. Our standard practice is to use a RCP so that we can 'cut' at a level lower enough to see the door/window openings, but look up high enough to also see the modeled framing that makes up the floor structure. Does that make sense? Does anyone else do this? Any better ways you guys use to show floor framing and bearing walls below?

    The stairs not showing is something that we struggle with and end up 'faking' in just to show. We end up drawing some lines to represent the trends.

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