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    New Revit PC and dual monitor advice please

    Hi

    First up, thanks to iru69 for the summary advice on PC specs, really helpful.

    I'm due a new PC with dual monitors and would appreciate any advice on what the best approach/options are.

    I'll mainly be working on medium to large sized projects, majority of which won't have linked files etc.

    Preference is to have a PC that will last a reasonable period of time (is 5 years deemed reasonable!?), with scope to add to it if I need to.

    In the past we've gone from off the shelf gaming PCs that were cost effective and did the job, to the 'safe' option of HP workstations from our reseller.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is my understanding of what's best for my use:

    CPU as fast as possible when using a single core (i9 best or just 8th gen i7? Preference on here seems to be intel, any reason AMD are less popular?)
    32Gb RAM
    SSD, 512Gb min. (Any thoughts on HP Z turbo drives?)
    Graphics card 2Gb min. Quadro is the expensive option despite being approved by Autodesk?

    For monitors, I'm leading towards 4k and between Dell U2718Q UltraSharp 27" and Iliyama ProLite B2875UHSU-B1 28". Iliyama is quite a lot cheaper than the ultrasharp but a lot of people on here seem to favour the ultrasharp.

    When I've asked for quotes for a workstation, the 'higher end' options all tend to have Xeon processors and I wondered why this was.

    Thanks in advance for for any guidance.

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    @remiscs is the guy on here to tell you what you need and buy your machine from (depending on where you are from)

    From what I have seen a workstation from one of the brands like HP, Dell and IBM in the past were all Xeon and Quadro machines and therefor expansive and not that suitable for just Revit. The problem with workstation that are custom made is that somebody has to build them and warranty is difficult on that. But with custom workstation builders like Remics and BIMBox in the US you get much more freedom and warranty.

    I'm from The Netherlands and have not yet found a custom workstation builder that I would go too. Sure there are some around, but they just slap together some components without really testing or understanding what it is I need (or at least that's my feeling about them). So for now I'm planning to build my own when the time is right to get a new one.

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    We've been using @Xi Computers for a while now and I'm really happy with them. Warranty is a year standard and can be extended at purchase, lifetime tech support. Computer I'm currently using is about 4 years old, and I've updated the RAM to 32Gb (max for the MB I have) and updated the video card. It still runs great.

    Here's the basics of a quote a I just got - system was +/- $2,200. I usually get monitors locally or through Amazon / Newegg.
    Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7/4.7GHz-1C Turbo Boost-12MB Shared L3 Cache 8 GT/s DMI3 Six-Core 8th Gen.
    16GB DDR4 @ 3000MHz
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 VRAM PCIe
    500GB Solid State Drive NVMe Mushkin PILOT M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 2680/1755MB/s Seq.R/W
    Standard Xi Warranty w/Express Advance Parts Replacement, Lifetime Tech Support, Three Year Labor FOB Xi, One Year on System parts. Manufacturer warranty on Software, Monitors and external accessories.(Freight both ways paid for parts only inside US & CA)
    We have had 20-30 systems over the last +/-10 years and I can count the problems I've had with them on one hand:
    • bad RAM on one system, new RAM sent overnight
    • a couple fans have gone out (two sent overnight after warranty period was up, a couple bought locally [$10 each?])
    • 5-year old video card went out (tech support call to trouble shoot, bought a new card locally)
    • I installed a second HDD and their cable management was too nice to mess up - I just bought a new cable


    Never used BIMBox or Remcis so I can't comment much on them, but everything I've seen and heard has been good.

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    Thanks for your replies. I'm in the UK, I've asked Boxx for a quote but when I've looked at custom builds, they're coming out at a much higher price than from our reseller, Dell etc.

    I'll be using this PC for a good while and want to make sure it's up to the job but also not get carried away with the spec!

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    Trying to use a PC for longer than 3 years, is (no offense meant) Stupid.

    Comparing the prices between custom machines and Dell's (given that the performance of the two are worlds apart) is also silly. If *ALL* mgmt cares about is "the bottom line" then they are always going to buy mass produced junk, and its always going to be slower.

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    Oh so true. My company is buying last generation hardware and putting them into a 4 year cycle. Ooooouch.


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    Thats....... awesome, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Trying to use a PC for longer than 3 years, is (no offense meant) Stupid.

    Comparing the prices between custom machines and Dell's (given that the performance of the two are worlds apart) is also silly. If *ALL* mgmt cares about is "the bottom line" then they are always going to buy mass produced junk, and its always going to be slower.
    Thanks, I'll opt for ignorant (and optimistic for a tight Yorkshireman) rather than stupid, which is why I'm here and appreciate the replies/advice!

    I'll work on 3 years.

    So a custom build with the same spec will be quicker than a Dell/HP?

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    If you are in Yorkshire I would just mention Workstation Specialists in Derby who have been building my PCs for many years.

    They ask you what software you are mainly using then they recommend options based on how much you want to spend - they convinced me I would be best to have 2 graphic cards in my latest PC - a mid range Quadro for stability and a high end Geforce for rendering - it has been excellent. Plus their build quality is outstanding and their telephone support on the rare occasions I need it also very good.

    Not the cheapest but the best I've come across in the UK. https://www.workstationspecialist.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsud View Post
    If you are in Yorkshire I would just mention Workstation Specialists in Derby who have been building my PCs for many years.

    They ask you what software you are mainly using then they recommend options based on how much you want to spend - they convinced me I would be best to have 2 graphic cards in my latest PC - a mid range Quadro for stability and a high end Geforce for rendering - it has been excellent. Plus their build quality is outstanding and their telephone support on the rare occasions I need it also very good.

    Not the cheapest but the best I've come across in the UK. https://www.workstationspecialist.com
    Great thanks

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