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    Quote Originally Posted by thompson1983 View Post
    Worth an extra c.100 for the i9 9900k?
    Exactly same question here!!!

    To be used in conjunction with Lumion and Enscape (for VR).

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    Picking up on this thread we have and been having kind of the same questions as @thomson1983. So I'll share my experience and current standpoint.

    So far we've been using Dell Precision line. They have a good pricing, but always more expensive as they carry quadros instead of GeForces. Main reason with Dell Precision (or similarly HP Z): if they break, Dell has to fix it by the end of next day. And they do break! And when they break, you want them fixed ASAP!

    The latest we got (1 year ago) were i7-7700K, P4000, 32GB RAM, 500GB NVMe.

    This time, the current crop are the i7-8700K, P5000. They cost around €3000 + VAT. it's a lot of money for 1yr old tech. So this time, we're trying something different and getting a machine assembled. If it breaks, we have a couple of spare laptop to cover the downtime.


    So, current specs are:
    i7-9700K or i9-9900K;
    ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2080 TI AMP! Edition 11GB to run Lumion + Enscape in VR;
    G.Skill Kit 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Ripjaws V Black
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe (or 970 Pro?);
    EKWB MLC Phoenix 240 AIO water-cooling;
    Motherboard Asus PRIME Z390-A;
    Seasonic Focus+ 850W 80+ Gold.


    So, questions:
    Is it worth to spend another €100 for the i9-9900K? My feeling and feedback from posts, no. But would appreciate opinions;
    Is it worth to spend another €80 for the Samsung Pro? My feeling and feedback from posts, no. But would appreciate opinions;


    We haven't settled the case yet with the assembler.

    On the table we have:
    Corsair Carbide 600Q;
    Fractal Design Define R6;
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro M.

    They are all gigantic.

    I've counter suggester the Corsair Carbide 400Q, but don't have an answer yet. We need quite cases. Again, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.


    For monitors, as replied previously, we're going for Dell U3219Q.

    Thank you very much in advance for any suggestions.

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    Funny timing, similar to @log, after weighing the various you options up, I'm looking at building ours to get the best spec for our money.

    What is the general consensus for i7-9700K or i9-9900K?

    For either which is the best motherboard? I was looking at the Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151.

    RAM, Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory. We can always add more sticks if need them.

    I'm currently looking at the Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive so I'd be interested if @logs is a better option.

    GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card for us as it should suit our needs.

    Corsair - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

    Corsair - Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case

    Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler

    Noctua - NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste

    Once again, any comments/guidance is very much appreciated and it looks like @log and I will have similar builds!

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    The PRO version has a little battery in it so if your power shuts down your disk won't crash, the EVO just shuts down, and then you can only hope it still works.
    For 100$ i would always buy the 9900, it has 100Mhz more then the 9700k and it has HT, which helps in almost every program except Revit

    ROG Maximus board is way overkill for a normal workstation, the Prime Z-390 is just as good and a lot cheaper.
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    Thanks.

    I thought the ROG might be overkill, it just came up a lot when I googled best mb for 9900!

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    Hi guys,

    (attachements, 9700k at 5ghz OC, 8086k 5ghz OC, stock 9900k and for fun 7980xe with custom boost clock tune [BST] for those CPU render guys)

    So regarding the 9700k vs 9900k. The single core performance is very very similar. For times sake I usually just run the RFO benchmark on demo systems and the current demos are still 8th gen. One of the benchmarks I bench every client build with is Cinebench. I will say that the 8086k and 9700k both at 5ghz score identical on Cinebench single core and multi-core, and I recall the 9700k did better stock due to the higher stock all core frequency (think it was 4.3ghz vs 4.6ghz).

    I will have a batch of 9700k builds to do this week so I can retest stock 9700k performance on Cinebench as I did not keep those scores.

    The 9900k is a real nice CPU and if the added cost does not concern you get it, it has about a 4.8-4.9ghz real world single core performance (stock single core 213CB and with manual OC 5ghz 216CB).

    For a Revit build really balance is everything if not wasting money is the plan. I would expect that the normal revit user would not know the difference between a blind test of the 9700k and 9900k and I would expect the final RFO result to be less than 5 seconds apart. The 9900k is all about getting Hyper Threading enabled.

    I am currently designing the BIMBOX product line right now and I am very split on where I see the two CPU because they are so close in performance for Revit. I honestly just wish Intel made the 8086k the new 9700k, I would have been happier with that but they needed to do something with the 9900k CPU that did not pass those standards.

    If you just want the best and money isnt an issue the 9900k does technically beat the 9700k and due to the HT it might have a longer upgrade cycle. If value is priority the 9700k would be the value performer between the two for Revit.
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    About Cases and cooling:
    Cases; for an off the shelf good case that is not huge go with the Fractal Design Define C in your flavor of tempered glass or solid panel. Great case, revit systems do not need bigger cases.

    Cooling, if you are not overclocking and your ambients are not 90F+ I would say single tower air coolers are the way to go. Phanteks PH-TC12DX or Noctua U12s would be good coolers. I actually have used the Noctua u9s on my 8700k/8086k builds for stock no overclocking builds. I have to be careful with the u9s as on a stock 9700k build, that CPU gets hot with AVX workloads so I had to use an AVX offset to keep it under 90c and stress testing, something I NEEEEEEEVER had to do with the 8700k family.

    AIO liquid cooling, I would say a good 120mm would be good for stock but overclocking will require a 240mm liquid cooler. Dont overclock on air even if a D15 could do it, not sure how well at this point so I can not recommend it yet. The d15 would of course do great at stock but pretty heavy.
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    Thanks for your reply and advice Remis. Unfortunately I've already taken the plunge.

    I'd appreciate your thoughts, highlighting where I might have gone wrong, for my benefit in future and for others in the same position.

    I opted for the following: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-...gb-ddr4-corsai

    Although the link says 8700k, it's the following bundle:

    3XS Z390 Overclocked Bundle, Intel Core i9 9900K "Coffee Lake", ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO, 16GB DDR4, Corsair Hydro H100x

    I've ordered the above along with the following:

    Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

    GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card.

    Corsair - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

    Corsair - Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case

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    For the monitors I went for 4xDell UltraSharp 27 InfinityEdge Monitor U2717D, again I'd appreciate any comments on the pros/cons of my decision.

    Think I might get neck ache...



    (2 monitors for each PC BTW!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thompson1983 View Post
    For the monitors I went for 4xDell UltraSharp 27 InfinityEdge Monitor U2717D, again I'd appreciate any comments on the pros/cons of my decision.

    Think I might get neck ache...



    (2 monitors for each PC BTW!)
    send some monitors my direction!

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