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    2D Kitchen issue

    Hi!
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    I'm trying to create 2D L shape kitchen family with an adjustable sink and stove and a fridge unit.
    The kitchen size is adjustable as well, with a fixed depth size of 60 cm.
    I succeeded to make the kitchen length adjustable only on one side of the L.
    When trying to adjust the other side, for some reason the fixed depth gets extended as well..

    Thanks
    Lee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leem View Post
    Hi!
    My first post here
    I'm trying to create 2D L shape kitchen family with an adjustable sink and stove and a fridge unit.
    The kitchen size is usps tracking adjustable as well, with a fixed depth size of 60 cm.
    I succeeded to make the kitchen length adjustable only on one side of the L.
    When trying to adjust the other side, for some reason the fixed depth gets extended as well..

    Thanks
    Lee
    Yeah same issue here too. Help is appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    Regards,
    Oliver
    Last edited by OliverS12; November 11th, 2019 at 02:18 AM.

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    Why would you draw this in 2D?

    Just drop a kitchen in 3D, there are tons of families out there. Make it a group and you can make multiple types of kitchens.

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    I agree with Marcel.
    If you're doing 2D, you're doing CAD, not BIM.
    If all you're concerned with is the Countertop, a 3D extrusion is no harder to parameterize than 2D Lines

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    Finally got a chance to open your family.
    You problem is that the "Length A" parameter is dimensioned to the Model Line of the leg.
    You should always be dimensioning parameters to Reference Planes (or Reference Lines) and not geometry
    It's also good practice to name your Reference Planes so we can tell you which one we're talking about
    I tried that, but you've also got your refrigerator group constrained to model lines.

    Basic Revit Family building process:
    Create (and name) Reference Planes first.
    Attach Dimensions
    Assign Parameters to Dimensions
    Test (this is called Flexing)
    Test again
    Only after you're sure things are moving as expected, THEN you can add the geometry.

    As stated above, you'll be much happier using 3D objects for the Countertop and other families for the sink, oven and fridge.
    A properly constructed sink can also cut the hole in the countertop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    I agree with Marcel.
    If you're doing 2D, you're doing CAD, not BIM.
    If all you're concerned with is the Countertop, a 3D extrusion is no harder to parameterize than 2D Lines
    Wrong!
    You can BIM in both 2D and 3D.

    And can we please stop questioning why people do this or do that and just focus on the real question.
    @Marcel Jansen you didn't even help / answer @OliverS12...
    @DaveP Maybe start with the answer before saying you agree with people..
    Last edited by bvs1982; October 29th, 2019 at 11:47 AM.

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    OK, fine, bvs.
    Now show me an elevation of that kitchen.
    Then show me an elevation from the perpendicular wall.
    Then shoot a 3D view. With Materials.
    Then get me a schedule of the appliances.

    If you can't do that, you're not doing BIM.

    (BTW, your "answer" wasn't particularly helpful, either.)
    Last edited by DaveP; October 29th, 2019 at 01:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvs1982 View Post
    Wrong!
    You can BIM in both 2D and 3D.

    And can we please stop questioning why people do this or do that and just focus on the real question.
    @Marcel Jansen you didn't even help / answer @OliverS12...
    @DaveP Maybe start with the answer before saying you agree with people..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    OK, fine, BVS


    OK, fine, bvs.
    Now show me an elevation of that kitchen.
    Then show me an elevation from the perpendicular wall.
    Then shoot a 3D view. With Materials.
    Then get me a schedule of the appliances.

    If you can't do that, you're not doing BIM.

    (BTW, your "answer" wasn't particularly helpful, either.)
    Soooo, only if you can do ALL that you are doing BIM... rightttt

    As far as i am awere the "I" stands for Information. That Information doesn't need to be ALL that. It can be only quantity or length and width which you can get from 2D.

    But lets agree we disagree on this one

    Food for thought https://www.thenbs.com/knowledge/top...myths-debunked
    Last edited by bvs1982; October 29th, 2019 at 02:02 PM.

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    Dont forget the M stands for Model.

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