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    RVT 2020 - Full_Standard set - 2020.02.26 @ 07.27.40 on JG-PC.txt
        RFO Benchmark v3.2 (build 19.08.2019)
        RevitForum.org
    
    All times are in seconds, lower is better.
    
    
    Run on Revit 2020 FCS
    
    _________________________________________________________________
    Update
       10.68   update previous version file
    
    _________________________________________________________________
    Model creation benchmark
        4.84   opening and loading the custom template
       12.40   creating the floors levels and grids
       18.51   creating a group of walls and doors
       31.39   modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
       11.77   creating the exterior curtain wall
        9.64   creating the sections
        3.89   changing the curtain wall panel type
       14.22   creating area plans
        1.92   creating and applying view template
      108.58   TOTAL
    
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    Export benchmark
       61.08   export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
       54.10   export all views as DWFs
       90.89   export all views as DWGs
       61.98   print all views as vector *
       94.38   print all views as raster *
    
    Notes:
     *  Print Views tests require the 'Microsoft XPS Document Writer' printer be installed.
    
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    Render benchmark
       30.41   render
    
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    Graphics - Standard View
        5.44   activate View Styles view
        0.45   change view to Wireframe
        0.64   change view to Hidden
        0.87   change view to Shaded
        0.87   change view to Consistent Colors
        1.52   change view to Realistic
        0.71   refresh Wireframe Line view x10
        3.07   refresh Hidden Line view x10
        3.26   refresh Shaded view x10
        3.12   refresh Consistent Colors view x10
        3.40   refresh Realistic view x10
        0.42   activate View Cube view
        2.51   rotate view x1
       26.28   TOTAL
    
    Notes:
        Graphics benchmark measures the entire graphics stack, which includes CPU and memory.
        To meaningfully compare graphics cards, test all cards in the same machine
        and use the 'Graphics - expanded' benchmark.
    
    
    
    
    TEST CONDITIONS:
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    Mfr: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
    Model: X570 AORUS ELITE
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro64-bit
    
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    CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor            
    Max Clock Speed: 3.493Ghz
    Number of Processors: 16
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    Total Physical Memory: 64GB @ 3200 3200Mhz
    
    _______________________________________________________
    Drive Type: local Disk (NTFS)
    Drive Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB
    
    _______________________________________________________
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
    Graphics RAM: 3.9990234375GB
    Driver version: 26.21.14.4219
    
    _______________________________________________________
    Screen Resolution: 1920x1080x32bit @ 60Hz
    DPI Scaling: 100%
    
    
    
    
    RAW DATA:
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       11.279   10.356   10.420   update previous version file
    
        4.834    4.838    4.848   opening and loading the custom template
       12.144   12.408   12.633   creating the floors levels and grids
       18.371   18.400   18.760   creating a group of walls and doors
       31.172   31.406   31.584   modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
       11.611   11.797   11.889   creating the exterior curtain wall
        9.312    9.871    9.744   creating the sections
        3.785    3.975    3.914   changing the curtain wall panel type
       13.805   14.471   14.375   creating area plans
        1.871    1.986    1.914   creating and applying view template
    
       60.623   60.828   61.797   export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
       54.078   54.342   53.879   export all views as DWFs
       91.312   90.348   91.000   export all views as DWGs
       61.627   62.051   62.264   print all views as vector
       94.402   94.299   94.453   print all views as raster
    
       30.062   30.711   30.455   render
    
        5.482    5.424    5.404   activate View Styles view
        0.434    0.504    0.420   change view to Wireframe
        0.641    0.643    0.637   change view to Hidden
        0.859    0.889    0.854   change view to Shaded
        0.859    0.883    0.859   change view to Consistent Colors
        1.478    1.602    1.492   change view to Realistic
        0.695    0.719    0.703   refresh Wireframe Line view x10
        3.072    3.076    3.070   refresh Hidden Line view x10
        3.242    3.291    3.244   refresh Shaded view x10
        3.109    3.131    3.106   refresh Consistent Colors view x10
        3.400    3.430    3.383   refresh Realistic view x10
        0.416    0.424    0.412   activate View Cube view
        2.504    2.500    2.516   rotate view x1
    
    
    Oh and by the way, here's my results for Full_Standard set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuma View Post
    Oooow crap. My apologies. Im just a long time lurker, first time poster. I was just going through his results and could not see the motherboard manufacturer so I thought it might be a pre-build (please don't kill me).

    On the other hand, I do custom builds and mods on systems that I own as a hobby. Did a couple for the office too.

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    LOL, Anthony is a nice guy, so you should be OK.
    Looks like a nice system there in the picture. Probably would not go with a custom water cooling solution for office PC myself, but I love the aio's these days.

    My workstation (that I build myself) is a bit over a year old now and still matches with the top out there with a score of 85 and I love it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Deurloo View Post
    LOL, Anthony is a nice guy, so you should be OK.
    Looks like a nice system there in the picture. Probably would not go with a custom water cooling solution for office PC myself, but I love the aio's these days.

    My workstation (that I build myself) is a bit over a year old now and still matches with the top out there with a score of 85 and I love it !!

    Oh yeah, the workstations that I have put together for work only has AiO's in them. Except for one.

    My "Model Creation Benchmark" results is kinda bothering me. Between Anthony's 3950x bench results and mine, it's like "seconds" apart. Would that have something to do with the RAM speeds? I set mine to 3200mhz (planning on ramping it up to at least 3600mhz later).

    Current setup is:
    3950x
    Aorus X570 Elite
    Corsair LPX 64gb DDR4
    Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC White
    Corsair h115i Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuma View Post
    Oh yeah, the workstations that I have put together for work only has AiO's in them. Except for one.

    My "Model Creation Benchmark" results is kinda bothering me. Between Anthony's 3950x bench results and mine, it's like "seconds" apart. Would that have something to do with the RAM speeds? I set mine to 3200mhz (planning on ramping it up to at least 3600mhz later).

    Current setup is:
    3950x
    Aorus X570 Elite
    Corsair LPX 64gb DDR4
    Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC White
    Corsair h115i Pro
    Hello Kazuma,

    RD is obviously just joking as you can tell but yeah I build workstations professionally. Your system looks amazing though! Mine are not as nice looking since they are workstations but I do pride myself in cable management

    That system I posted was on a clean Windows 1903 install and Revit 2020 trial on it. I do not think the trial could have done anything except make it slower but it does not seem to do that compared to activated Revit benchmarks I have also done. The clean install is likely a possibility for a quicker score and that I was running at 3600mhz RAM (Trident-Z Neo kit 4x16GB). Cooling was a Fractal S36 AIO w/Noctua Redux 120mm 1700rpm pwm fans. I have noticed 2133mhz vs 3600mhz on a 3950x does not effect benchmarks that test all core loads but it does help in single core performance a bit which is what the RFO benchmark is all about.

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    Hi Remiscs,

    I was looking on your website, wondering why your pc's are so expensive. 3,5k for a basic system with a i9 9900k and RTX 2060 is quite a lot. Or are pc's more expensive in the US?

    Also interesting that the noctua NH-D15 has only 1 fan mounted.

    The company i work for also buys 3k+ pcs, but their ICT provider only does HP computers, so they got us these overpriced things:
    Xeon W2125
    16GB 2666mhz
    Quadro P4000
    250GB NVME
    1TB HDD

    I pointed it out to them, now i made a 2xA4 list of what components they should get. because really, a 1k P4000 PNY is just stupid to buy, its a pretty weak GPU that almost falls into the 2080ti league.

    I recommended the following specs to them, if you guys know any better CPU or GPU's for Revit please let me know:
    i7 9700k, i9 9900(k)(s), I7 8086k
    32/64GB 2666/3200mhz
    GTX 1070(ti), GTX 1660s, RTX 2060
    1TB Samsung 970 (evo(plus)(pro), or WD SN750
    No HDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modderhoop View Post
    Hi Remiscs,

    I was looking on your website, wondering why your pc's are so expensive. 3,5k for a basic system with a i9 9900k and RTX 2060 is quite a lot. Or are pc's more expensive in the US?
    Hello Modderhoop,

    There are quite a few reasons for the pricing. Compared to some of my competition I can actually be over 20% cheaper. Please consider there is a cost to actually run a business (office space, proper insurances, admin cost, software cost, taxes, etc). If I was still based in California I would need to charge more as well since it is actually more expensive in every way to run a business there so location matters as well. I also am very selective with the components I use, testing and such takes time so that the end results is a great performing and balanced system.

    All those factors aside, warranty and support is also a large reason for system prices. Having inventory on hand for warranty claims is not exactly cheap. Motherboards for example can go out of stock periodically and then go end of life when a new chipset is out so I have to have some on hand to avoid causing delays. This has been part of why my pricing has gone up over the years from when my warranty was only 1yr and I did not inventory parts to 3yr and keeping inventory. I am not sure if you knew this but motherboard manufacturers run out of warranty replacement motherboards too so for every XX amount of systems sold I have a motherboard in stock. Same for RAM, power supplies, AIO coolers, etc.

    In the end, my pricing falls in line or is cheaper than my workstation competition. Hope that helps explain some of the reasons.

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    For the warranty side, our current provider does not have any components in stock, last week a just 2 year old P4000 broke (how i dont know, it sits still doing nothing for most of the day) and they contacted HP, and they need to get a replacement, with the excuse of the corona virus it took them almost a week to get a new P4000 to us...

    The old one did still work most of the time, but only with 1 monitor and some artifacts on screen.

    If it would have took them even longer, i was considering taking the GTX 1650 out of my second pc and putting it in there for the time being.

    And i do like your systems, the pictures you have on the gallery of your website look really nice , i can never really get the cable management as clean as i want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modderhoop View Post
    For the warranty side, our current provider does not have any components in stock, last week a just 2 year old P4000 broke (how i dont know, it sits still doing nothing for most of the day) and they contacted HP, and they need to get a replacement, with the excuse of the corona virus it took them almost a week to get a new P4000 to us...

    The old one did still work most of the time, but only with 1 monitor and some artifacts on screen.

    If it would have took them even longer, i was considering taking the GTX 1650 out of my second pc and putting it in there for the time being.

    And i do like your systems, the pictures you have on the gallery of your website look really nice , i can never really get the cable management as clean as i want it.
    Thanks, I appreciate it. Your post actually reminded me to update the web page which sometimes goes a while between updates. Current configurations are a little cheaper.

    I feel bad for what is going on with the Coronavirus but it has actually impacted supply for some people. The USA desktop components is still stable at this moment but for how long who knows. I sell laptops as well and I will just say that is running dry with many models out of stock at this moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remiscs View Post
    Hello Kazuma,

    RD is obviously just joking as you can tell but yeah I build workstations professionally. Your system looks amazing though! Mine are not as nice looking since they are workstations but I do pride myself in cable management

    That system I posted was on a clean Windows 1903 install and Revit 2020 trial on it. I do not think the trial could have done anything except make it slower but it does not seem to do that compared to activated Revit benchmarks I have also done. The clean install is likely a possibility for a quicker score and that I was running at 3600mhz RAM (Trident-Z Neo kit 4x16GB). Cooling was a Fractal S36 AIO w/Noctua Redux 120mm 1700rpm pwm fans. I have noticed 2133mhz vs 3600mhz on a 3950x does not effect benchmarks that test all core loads but it does help in single core performance a bit which is what the RFO benchmark is all about.

    That's what I thought. I upgraded from a 6700k workstation and noticed small improvements. I was working on a revit project last week before building this new workstation and my old one was was struggling a little bit when panning around the project. When my boss asked me to put up a new system, I hoped that it wont struggle as much as my old one. But when I got the new workstation up and running, I opened up the project file that I was working on and noticed little difference. On my old workstation, panning around or zooming in and out, my screen would freeze for about a second and a half with that blue circle thing before proceeding to pan or zoom, and on my new workstation, it still freezes but it only takes maybe half a second before it pans or zooms in. When I saw that, first thing that came into my head was either I need to set my ram speeds higher to get a bit more better performance or the developers of Revit hasn't done any updates to optimize their software to the Ryzen 3000 series since it's a fairly new chip (I might be wrong though since some Intel processors have faster single core performance than the new Ryzen 9 chips.).

    And yes, after years of building personal and custom rigs, cable management is a evil necessary.
    I was doing custom sleeved cables for projects before and that was a daunting task to do. So when you said "I take pride with my cable management.", I know how that feels.
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