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    Opinions on nested families within doors

    We're looking at our door families and the idea has come up that we could nest the door leafs within the families thus making it easier to change the door leafs across the board when vision panel styles or glazing styles change.

    Is this something people on here do or do you just take the hit and change the families individually if such things change?

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    Without a doubt: Nested
    One "Parent" family with both the Panel and the Frame as nested families

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    Nesting the frame too? Any particular reason or for the same reason as the leaf? Our frames aren't really detailed enough to change based on sub-contractor info (each bloody one has a slightly different profile) and we're never down to update our details to the sub-con info.

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    100% agree with @Dave, for example all my doors have nested elements, The leafs are nested, handles, frames and even a 2D symbol which allows me to switch between 3D open and 2D open if necessary.

    Nested elements are far more flexible than families with all the geometry modeled in an unique family, you'll have less glitches and less broken families, if you want to go even more far on this use your nested "Shared" families this will allow you to schedule individual door elements (Frames, Leafs, and so on) which is a great thing if you need to do detailed quantities of your doors, Regards

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    Many thanks both

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    Quote Originally Posted by robp View Post
    Many thanks both
    You are very welcome!! glad to help!

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    Nesting and sharing the frames lets you switch between different frame types by door in the project. For example sidelites, transoms, masonry head frames, hospital stops, etc. We use that parameter in our schedule as well, so changing the frame type changes the 3d model and the schedule at the same time.

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    Good point, Chris.
    We use that name of the Nested component directly in our Schedule.
    So, simply by placing the correct family, we have about 90% of our Opening Schedule already filled out.
    The only things we need to add are Fire Rating, Hardware Group, and Comments

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    Check out THIS THREAD to see one approach, what is possible.

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    100% nested frames and panels. Majority of work is all instance based parameters.
    Type based, I would use for residential units in towers. (you could probably do dynamo to keep things in check and only use instance based parameters)

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