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    Talking MEP 2D Symbol Offset - Horizontal And Vertical Solution

    I was given a Socket outlet with a 2D symbol that could be offset Horizontally And vertically.

    Now I need to understand how it works to replicate it with all my other MEP families.

    I can change the symbol for example from the original socket outlet, to a data outlet, and it stops working so I missing something, not locking a dim to something.

    I am sure their are plenty of us who need this.

    So here is what I have, and its all done in the annotation Family, it just needs dissecting and reapplying to other 2D Symbols.

    So we have from top down:
    • A generic annotation
    • 3 Dims
    • 3 Parameters



    The Parameters are as follows:
    • Vert Symbol Offset (default), Family Parameter, Instance,Common, Length, Dimensions
    • Horiz Symbol Offset (default), Family Parameter, Instance,Common, Length, Dimensions
    • Pivot (default) Family Parameter, Instance,Common, Length, Other, Value 50.-, Formula = Horiz Symbol Offset + 50 mm

    The 2D symbol is a "Detail Group Symbol"

    As mentioned I edit the Detail Group Symbol to suit the family and the off sets both stop working, this must be something I am not seeing or doing.

    So close to having a full library of MEP With offset symbols for GA's with out having to affect the setting out in 3D.

    Please Help all us MEP Drafters
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    Also have this in R17.

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    270 Views so far , and no one comments? come on people, Im giving you the file you need here, just need a break down.....

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    What *specifically* is your actual question?

    Doing what you are asking about isnt complicated: You just go in the Annotation Family, and have the parameters offseting the location of the symbol, where you want it to go. Then you tie the GA's parameters to the parent family, so its controlled in the model.

    I only made mine offset the symbol perpendicular to the wall (for vertically stacked arrangements). I didnt do the horizontal direction, because i dont agree with doing it (but yes, i understand why you want it).

    But... What is the ACTUAL question you have? You are using some terms that simply dont exist, up above: There are Symbols (Generic Annotations), and there are Detail Groups. There isnt a Detail Group Symbol.

    If you are "changing the symbol" and it stops working, my guess is the actual offsets are IN the annotation, and NOT in the one you are swapping it too. Thats how mine are done, and the same thing would be true.

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    Hi,

    My Apologies for not using the correct language, I am quite new to this side of it all.

    What I am asking is, when i change the "generic Annotation" to show a different symbol, the off setts stop working.
    So are the dims locked to a certain part of this original Generic Annotation, when i change it, how do i lock them to so the off sets still work?

    When I edit the annotation the dim are not inside this, it seems to be a group of some sort.

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    [QUOTE=Doing what you are asking about isnt complicated: [/QUOTE]

    All things are if you don't know, hence me looking for help on here

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    Hi all that have been looking at this, a solution can be found at:

    https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit...t/false#M67560

    Where the friendly and professional person has understood what I was asking, and posted a full breakdown and even a video to accompany it, so we can now create this, if the link does not work just go to AUTODESK KNOWLEDGE NETWORK and search "MEP 2D Symbol Offset - Horizontal And Vertical Solution".

    Really should have gone there first.

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