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    BIM360 Issue-Sharing Models with the Contractor

    We're using BIM360 on a lot or projects and the contractors want access to the models to run clash detection, which is part of their contract. Our firm (architects) has no issue with giving them access to the folder and downloading our model. The issue is that several of the consultants do not want to use this method. They have proprietary stuff in their models and want to "clean" their models before giving them to the contractor. Understandable.

    The consultant models are linked into our model so if I give the contractor access to download our model it downloads all of the linked models as well. Is there a way around this? Some way to give the contractor access to our model without it downloading the linked models?

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    Sounds like a waste of time and effort to me.
    First of all, what happens if something changes when the "clean" their model and there is a clash with the actual element that's not accurately represented in the "clean" version. Will your consultant sign a statement saying they accept responsibility? If I were the GC, I would not accept a stripped down copy that quite likely contains differences from what they are checking.

    Second, who's paying for the time it takes to dummy down the consultant model?

    And finally, I suspect that the proprietary stuff in their models is probably not as wonderful and fabulous as they think it is.
    Any worthy competitor to your consultant likely wouldn't be able to use it even if they did steal it. And a worthy competitor would steal it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post

    And finally, I suspect that the proprietary stuff in their models is probably not as wonderful and fabulous as they think it is.
    This. So much this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    And a worthy competitor would steal it in the first place.
    I assume that you meant wouldn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    I assume that you meant wouldn't?
    Oops. I'm a terrible typist

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    Dave...I don't disagree with anything you said, however, that's the situation I have to deal with.

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    Seems to me that forces you down the path of consumed models where you publish a version for them to use that can be stripped of the consultant's linked models.

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    What a PitA -- bound to slip up at some point and their precious IP will be out there and then what happens? is the architect responsible for that? arguably so if they're the ones who forwarded it on in whatever manner

    that's a mess -- better get legal involved

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    If they are your consultants, you should own their model, I really don't understand this fear. So what if someone uses your content, you already spent the time making it, your not going to get paid for it, and what contractor is going to use your stuff and so what if they did, how is that harming the consultant. Anyway, to answer your question, I would then put it back on the Consultants to have to make sure the contractor has downloadable revit models at whatever interval you want. The funny part of this is the stuff they strip out isn't what the contractor wants anyway, thats the stuff they have to leave in. In the future make sure you define this in your BIMxp and consultant expectations agreement. Sorry you are having to deal with this. But the timing is spot on, I just got this very question today.

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